Minutes UAV meeting
Date: Friday 28 February 1997
Place: University of New South Wales - Mechanical Engineering Building
This meeting was organised to follow up on the UAV Symposium in Canberra
on 30 - 31 October 1996 as agreed at that symposium. Meeting was
chaired by Dr. K.C. Wong and minutes
were taken by Dr. Cees Bil and Dr.
1. Progress updates since the Canberra symposium.
(a) Mal Walker from CASA gave an overview on the current
status on legislation affecting UAVs:
The role of CASA is to ensure:
Safety of fare paying passengers
Safety of the traveling public
Safety of the public in general
Consideration of the environment
Legislation affecting UAVs:
CAO 95.21 - Model Aircraft
CAR 137 - Pilotless Aircraft
Aircraft - A flying machine with a pilot and a CofA.
Model - A small representation but currently defined as an aircraft
that is nor designed for nor capable of accommodating a person and the
flight of which is uncontrolled or remotely controlled. IF IT DOESN'T HAVE
A PILOT, IT MUST BE A MODEL. This is a fundamental problem for UAVs in
the current regulations.
As written, CAO 95.21 applies to any pilotless aircraft - cumbersome exemptions
are necessary for non aero-modellers.
Payloads of some pilotless aircraft exceed the weight of a person - if
it is not a model, what is it?
CAR 137 realistically applies only to:
- modified conventional aircraft
- purpose built, military style RPVs
Specific legislation is required to cover pilotless aircraft used for:
- scientific research
- research and development
- commercial activities
Free: < 300 ft, OCTA, non populous
Airspace: Controlled airspace
Populous areas: Habitation
Ambient conditions: Daylight
Exemption plus operating conditions
Do not apply to "state aircraft" in restricted airspace
CASA's Regulatory Framework Program
A review program to update our regulations and bring them into line with
other major aviation countries.
Comprises 6 Technical Committees with associated Project Teams.
TC6 - Sport Aviation Project Team will develop a new CASR Part 101 - Unmanned
balloons, kites, unmanned rockets and unmanned aircraft.
Implementation by early 1998.
UAV Project Team
Leader: Mal Walker
Agenda: Meet once or twice per month teleconferencing/e-mail
Terms of Reference: Review existing rules, assess foreign rules, review
requirements, develop legislation
(b) Jeff Elliot (TACA)
TACA is a UAV that can stay on station for a long time (3 months) at
60.000 - 80.000 ft. Its primary role is that of a communications platform.
There is considerable interest from the UK, China and Europe.
(c) Bill Filmer (RAAF)
The RAAF is looking at UAVs as a possible solution to the JP129 surveillance
requirement. For BAAS, the Global Hawk, TACA and Predator are considered.
For FAAS, armed helicopters, small aircraft and small UAVs will be considered.
In March, a visit will made to the US and Israel. As there are no time
constraints on the procurement, the Australian can be involved.
(d) Peter Aldridge (ASTA)
ASTA builds the Jindavik target drone. Various modifications are being
made. ASTA will be involved in the operations support for the JP-7 vehicle
2. Discussions regarding the potential formation of a formalised National
There is definitely an interest to establish a formal group. Various options
were posed. There seems to be a consensus to start small and to define
the expected outcomes of such a group. Options are to form a specialist
group under the RAeS or IEAust. The RAeS already has such a concept in
place in the UK. Also, the RAeS has been supporting the UAV conference
held in Bristol. Cees Bil will seek more information on RAeS.
Another suggestion is to setup a listserver, where those who are interested
can subscribe or unsubscribe. KC Wong will investigate the possibility
to setup a listserver at the University of Sydney.
Appendix A gives a summary proposal of the group and its objectives.
Comment and contributions are invited.
3. Time and location for next UAV Symposium - Where do we meet next time.
It was agreed that the next meeting will be held in Adelaide (around December
1997)). Weimin Zhang (DSTO) will take this up with Jorg Hacker (Airborne
Research Australia/Flinders Institute for Atmospheric and Marine Sciences).
The meeting after that will be held in Melbourne, to coincide with ICAS'98
in September 1998. Cees Bil will organise this event.
4. UAV Technology Needs - ATF.
The Aerospace Technology Form (ATF) requires information on technology
needs for UAVs. KC Wong has already submitted a report to the ATF on present
UAV activities in Australia. KC will make a start with a report on UAV
technology requirements, eg. secure communications/telemetry, smart cards,
fly-by-wire, control systems, frequency allocations, etc., and send that
around for comments.
Regular communication via e-mail will be restricted to a list of subsribing
parties. General information will be available through a Web site for those
parties who do not wish to receive e-mail on general issues. Parties on
the original (COSSA UAV Symposium) list should advise whether they wish
to subscribe to discussions or not. One last message to the COSSA UAV Symposium
llist will be sent to advise parties regarding future e-mail communication
6. Close of meeting
APPENDIX A - Proposed association, terms of reference, objectives, roles
(Open for comment and alteration)
Proposals for name: SUAV - Society of Unmanned Airborne Vehicle
NUAVSIG - National Unmanned Aerial Vehicle Special Interest Group
: Others ?????????????
MISSION: - To promote the use and development of UAV's
and their applications within Australia, and to establish and maintain
indigenous technological capabilities for the development and operation
of UAV's and their payloads.
Specific areas of activity (Terms of Reference):
To prodvide a vehicle organisation to act on behalf of parties with interests
in UAV technologies, applications and operations;
To foster the development and expansion of UAV applications and functions
and associated technologies;
To promote the advancement of UAV design, navigation, guidance and control
To liaise with regulatory authorities (CASA) in regard to the development
of regulations and legislation to ensure suitable standards for operation
of UAV's; and
To liaise with radio spectrum management groups with regard to usable frequencies.
Technology areas (expandable):
Airframe design and construction;
Navigation, guidance and control;
Payload technologies - remote sensing technologies
- communication technologies
E-mail (for those
wanting to be involved in regular dialogue)
Web site (under construction
- for those wanting browse only info)
newsletter (may be made redundant by Web
UAV Symposia (annual event)
Affiliation of the "society" with aeronautical, engineering, and/or other
professional societies may be beneficial in terms of transfer of information
and extending the support network. This will require more discussion. Possible
affiliations have been suggested with:
Association for Unmammed Vehicle Systems International (AUVSI) (US based
Aerospace Technology Forum (ATF);
Royal Aeronautical Society (RAeS);
Institution of Engineers, Australia (IEAust).
Suggestions regarding this proposal are welcome.